why would you bother, its a girls motor..

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and not just your average girl either.... hairdressers!

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did I tell you that I won a trophy?

If it was a van or ute you can go bigger than that because it is a commercial
vehicle and in NSW they come under different rules
Cheers Pete

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A recent study found the average Aussie walks about 900 miles a year
Another study found Aussies drink, on average, 22 gallons of alcohol a year
That means, on average, Australians get about 41 miles per gallon

Kind of makes you proud to be an AUSSIE

When I was working in a wrecking yard we had a drugged out girl that used to harrass us into working on her Hyundai. The car was nearly as rough looking as she was. The motor was nearly shagged, it took about two litres of water every day and nearly as much oil.
One day she drove in with the car running very badly. It sounded like it was running on two cylinders. I did the quick pull off the plug leads while the motor was running trick and worked out that cylinders 3 and 4 were not doing anything. So I lifted the rocker cover and to my surprise I found that a rocker shaft had broken.
The rocker shaft was located with three bolts and one of the end bolts had come undone so the shaft had broken through the middle bolt hole.
So I just did up the loose bolt, re-fitted the rocker cover and gave her back the car. Good as gold.

I like girls and hairdressers are hot

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Respect mine and I'll respect yours.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyundai_Alpha_engine

not too bad really, and you can probably get them dirt cheap..

Are you sure the 'alpha engine' is the Excel motor? As it doesn't clearly say 'Excel'?? Once again, info is scarce.

There are far better 1.5 around, for example the 5E-FE or 5E-FHE. 94hp @ 5400rpm up to 110hp @ 6400 depending on year or model.

Or The 5A-FE, with the best making 100hp @ 5600rpm. All with Toyota reliability.

How about the Mitsubishi 4A91 (1.5L)? 109hp@6000rpm and 105ft.lbs@4000rpm.

The Mitsu 4G91 makes 113hp@6000rpm.

I could search even further....

When looking at a possible conversion, size is a major issue, assuming you can get anything to fit (you can't) there are so many better engines out there other than a Hyundai that are far superior. The aftermarket following for Hyundai's are low too, better off with a more popular engine. And since the original price of the engine is only jsut one small part of a conversion, why would you save a grand by buying something undesirable? Unless of course you wanted to be different.

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1964 Morris 850, 1330 Supercharged - 81.8hp atws.
1975 Leyland Mini S 1100S powered - Nice and reliable.
1977 Leyland Mini LS - Project LS-T

Who the hell cares whether its a Hyundai or not!!

Its going to be a lot better than what he's got, and for $300 to boot.

And if you factor in the cost, then it's a win-win situation.

If you take the cost of the conversion at say $10,000, and the cost of a half-cut is $2,000, then thats 20% of the cost - this is a substantial sum, not something 'insignificant'.

If Ken buys the Hyundai motor for $300, he has automatically made $1,700 windfall. That is a 'significant' amount - nothing wrong with Hyundai engines - you all have just got to get past the peer-group stigma that surrounds them!!!

If it screws the pooch in two years, he buys another one for $300 - what price will Josh pay for a new 4EFTE (no offence Josh!), or me for that matter!!

I just wish you would get off your high horses and see the brand for what it is! Its not a SR20DET, nor is it priced like one!!!

My $0.02 (and sorry for the rambling)

Cheers,
Tricky

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"Not Speeding Officer..........Qualifying"

Just remember , a few years ago you would have been laughed at for suggesting putting a starlet motor (they're a girls car aren't they .....) into a mini , and look where they are now . Someone's got to try it to see if it's feasible or beneficial . If worst comes to worst (assuming it fits ???) then he's got a mini with a 5 speed that parts are readily available for an every day hack and the experience from doing the conversion will help for something bigger . I say give it a go and see what happens , there's thousands of them out there so parts will be cheap .

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What I said above has absolutely nothing to do with the brand name Hyundai.

I was just saying there are other alternatives, that I believe are better. And, to come back to this again, info on these engines is scarce compared to other brand names.

Go on wikipedia, look up Toyota engines, look up Nissan engines, look up Hyundai.

I just believe there are better alternatives out there.

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1964 Morris 850, 1330 Supercharged - 81.8hp atws.
1975 Leyland Mini S 1100S powered - Nice and reliable.
1977 Leyland Mini LS - Project LS-T

yes, there is less info about hyundai engines around, but i think this is because no one is realy interested.
over here hyundai is considered a poor choice to get from A to B, just a bit better than walking. so hyundai could build the best engines ever but no one knows it as no one cares.

my 2 cents (€ of course )

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Rover 214 atm ....

That makes your opinion more important than ours!

Yes, I do agree, it's because there is little interest, but if there's little interest in aftermarket parts and professional help, then issues could arise, but I guess it's it's 300 bucks a motor, you don't have to worry too much.

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1964 Morris 850, 1330 Supercharged - 81.8hp atws.
1975 Leyland Mini S 1100S powered - Nice and reliable.
1977 Leyland Mini LS - Project LS-T

yes, thats true, you have to keep a nearly factory specs engine, experience and performace parts will be rare. should be considered


no, just more expensive

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Rover 214 atm ....

Slinkey,

Know what you are saying and I wasn't having I go at you (I wouldnt dare!).

Better options sure, but better options for the price???? I doubt it.

If Brad had never taken the gamble with the 4EFTE then we would never had known its benefits, or deficits for that matter. Con likewise with the G13B and myself and Simon with the D16A8

I say give it a go, Ken has nothing to lose and everything to gain.

Like Ian said, if it turns out 'only' to be a mediocre performer, at least Ken would have gained the experience doing the conversion which will hold him in good stead for the next one.

My $0.04 now (Ian, you keeping tabs here?)

Tricky

P.S. And as Ken said, hairdressers are hot, which has nothing to do with this discussion!

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"Not Speeding Officer..........Qualifying"

wataya rekon about a proton satria motor??

they go pretty hard..

bin done before???