But with virtually the same hp as the Suzi motor you have to lug around a larger cast iron block. There are better motors out there.

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Too many cars, and too little time.

Is it actually larger or heavier than a Suzi motor? It would be interesting to find out.

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Brett Nicholson
Greendale (near Ballan) VIC.
1971 Morris Mini Moke
1966 Austin Mini
1965 Morris Mini Traveller
1973 LR Series 3 88
2007 LR Freelander 2

I'll do my part - will put a complete G13b & gearbox on the "calibrated" bathroom scales tonight.

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Too many cars, and too little time.

Don't hold your breath. I'm not likely to find a complete Echo 1.5 unit anytime soon. It's on my "gunna" list.

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Brett Nicholson
Greendale (near Ballan) VIC.
1971 Morris Mini Moke
1966 Austin Mini
1965 Morris Mini Traveller
1973 LR Series 3 88
2007 LR Freelander 2

Complete Suzuki G13b engine & gearbox with clutch & inlet manifold etc
(no alternator or exhaust only)
110kg or about 30kg less than the cast iron A series

Your turn with the Echo donk Brett. No rush

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Too many cars, and too little time.

Game on!!

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"Not Speeding Officer..........Qualifying"

You said no rush Ian!

Complete Yaris YRZ engine 1.5 Vvti 1NZ-FE with exhaust and inlet but no alternator or gearbox attached - 80kg.

I doubt the gearbox weighs 30kg.

Cheers,

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Brett Nicholson
Greendale (near Ballan) VIC.
1971 Morris Mini Moke
1966 Austin Mini
1965 Morris Mini Traveller
1973 LR Series 3 88
2007 LR Freelander 2

yeah but all you guys keep forgetting about all the other crap needed to "Run" the thing

add up the extra crap subframe mod crap,,, all the usual hooking up crap like engine mounts, wiring, injection, inlet & exhaust are always way more crap , bigger brakes & suspension crap,,, & there`s more,,, there`s allways more when you add it all up as a "WHOLE-PACKAGE"

don`t get me wrong but all this jap engine conversion thing with how much lighter it all is,,,, well it`s just not ok??? & they always seem to upset the natural "Balance" of the car

& no ,,, if you think i havn`t driven a heap of Jap engine transplant-ed minis ,,, then you`re seriously sooooooooo wrong

sorry,,, just having a stab while i can

ok,,, now you can all start bagging me all you like ,,, go on... you know you want to... just make sure you back it up with a "Front-Rear" weight bias docket from a Known to be accurate scale.

no race minis allowed,,, just road registered ones cause that`s the point here,,, yeah???...... fair???

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No offence intended here but--> anyone writing a book about minis 30 years ago may not have experienced such worn or stuffed-with components as we are finding these days.

You should put your heart & soul into everything you do.

Im trying to fix a few of these problems with my starlet build, but the more ideas i have the more it goes away from being nearly a mini.

And im keen to see your custom engine matt, sounds awesome and cant wait to see it go.

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Simplify and add lightness

yeah well it took me over 10 years to get a simple head conversion finished,,, just imagine how long it`s gonna take to have this new whole bloody engine done ?????

suckin me dry it is



& hey... don`t get me wrong,,, i`m not meaning to "Bag-Out" any jap engine conversion,,, i actually like some of them (some) & here i am with a dam Jap (Toyota) engine conversion in my Kombi,,, so i`m not really one to judge

but it (the Kombi) is ****** fast

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No offence intended here but--> anyone writing a book about minis 30 years ago may not have experienced such worn or stuffed-with components as we are finding these days.

You should put your heart & soul into everything you do.

I hear what you;re say Matt, but don't drive 10/10th all the time so a few kgs less weight in the front end isn't likely to be noticable in the handling??? Less weight in the front end of a Moke may even improve the handling, given how light the rear end is!

If I ever do a conversion, the reason would be reliability, economy and ease of sourcing spares. Hence my desire for a common N/A engine over a 4EFTE. Supplies of parts for a 4EFTE will not be floating around wreckers in ten years.

I'm looking at a donor Yaris which has been hit hard in the left side and is a stat write-off. It's almost complete, has only done 16000km and still runs. So I could use every bit I can off it and junk or sell the rest.

I realise that a conversion takes a lot of work, but somehow I find the idea of making up mounts and brackets more satisfying than building an engine (or signing a cheque for one).

Ideally I'd like to have both. Maybe an A series Twin Cam in the Traveller and a Jap donk in the Moke.

Cheers,

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Brett Nicholson
Greendale (near Ballan) VIC.
1971 Morris Mini Moke
1966 Austin Mini
1965 Morris Mini Traveller
1973 LR Series 3 88
2007 LR Freelander 2

Brett,,, i`m not bagging Jap engine transplants,,, in fact , for many people it`s really the only way to go,,, & for the exact reasons you point out, & i agree that some people are going to love them more than an A-series,,, sure,,, nothing new here

what i don`t like hearing is all those who keep on about how much lighter they are & how good the 5th gear is

they`re not lightweight (as the entire package is usually way heavier than a mini donk)

& that illusive 5th gear,,, well,,, yeah it`s there but the gearing is barely any better off because of the small wheels

ok,,, soooo add the big wheel diameter yeah,,, problem solved right? well,,, now the thing handles even more like puss

& so on it goes

Yaris is a good donk tho & yes they should be around for quite a number of years yet so yes, parts shouldn`t be a problem, so i`m with you, good choice.

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No offence intended here but--> anyone writing a book about minis 30 years ago may not have experienced such worn or stuffed-with components as we are finding these days.

You should put your heart & soul into everything you do.

Hey Matt

I'm now dreaming about an Ignis (No not Whitegoods!!)

Super fuel-efficient.

Steering is light and lifeless. Handling at higher speeds doesn't instil confidence. Performance with a full load on board is nothing special. Rear-seat leg room is hardly generous. So dropping it into a Mini body would cure that criticism big time!!

1.3-litres, 60 kW (82 Needies!). five-speed manual and the light clutch action, optional four-speed automatic.

http://www.google.com.au/images?hl=en&q ... 59&bih=615

The sports engine looks dead sexy

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"Show me the Mini!"

If your looking at the Ignis you should look at either the overseas version of the MK1 Holden Cruze, their both the same car just re-badged.....oh and their AWD instead of FWD .

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Respect mine and I'll respect yours.

Nah...then I'd have to put a Bowtie on a Mini

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