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| Author: | TartanRed [ Sat Apr 18, 2020 11:36 am ] |
| Post subject: | 22a1128 gearbox - value? |
I have a 3 synchro 22a1128 gearbox that is complete and came out of a running car. A friend is interested in one to rebuild. What do people think is a fair asking price for a 3 synchro box that is complete (but presumably will need a full overhaul)? Cheers |
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| Author: | gtogreen1969 [ Sat Apr 18, 2020 11:44 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 22a1128 gearbox - value? |
Not sure on the going price but it would be worth more if it was a late MK1 S box just before the change to the 22G1128. Does it have a 12FA serial number on the front? |
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| Author: | timmy201 [ Sat Apr 18, 2020 12:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 22a1128 gearbox - value? |
And depends on if it’s standard ratio or close ratio gears, the final drive too I had one that was 3.44 and Cooper S close ratio |
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| Author: | Hinesy1275 [ Sat Apr 18, 2020 5:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 22a1128 gearbox - value? |
If 3-synchro, 22A1288? It was the stronger iteration of the 3-synchro 'box design with larger boss through the layshaft @ both ends - amongst other design changes. If serial is as per the reference above, they (presently) don't fetch the asking prices of the '333, but a consideration nonetheless... |
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| Author: | TartanRed [ Sat Apr 18, 2020 8:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 22a1128 gearbox - value? |
Hinesy thanks, I got the casting number wrong. I will have to check the serial number but I doubt it is an S ratio box. It came out of a 65 Deluxe (my first Mini) and would be standard ratio and 3.765 diff I expect... I will have a closer look when I pull it out. |
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| Author: | gtogreen1969 [ Sat Apr 18, 2020 8:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 22a1128 gearbox - value? |
TartanRed wrote: Hinesy thanks, I got the casting number wrong. I will have to check the serial number but I doubt it is an S ratio box. It came out of a 65 Deluxe (my first Mini) and would be standard ratio and 3.765 diff I expect... I will have a closer look when I pull it out. I am interested in the serial number if possible. I have a few photos of the 22A1288 and so far have worked out 12FA 12345 was on the MK1 S engines from around 9FSAY 50000. Numbers in the 60000 range were on the Morris 1100. Numbers in the 30000 range were on the Morris 1100S. 5/1234 which I think are Deluxe. (5 relates to the YDO code) R1234/4 (The 4 could relate to the YDO code) Some UK boxes with serial numbers in the SFB30000s and 90000s |
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| Author: | Hinesy1275 [ Sun Apr 19, 2020 9:57 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 22a1128 gearbox - value? |
gtogreen1969 wrote: TartanRed wrote: Hinesy thanks, I got the casting number wrong. I will have to check the serial number but I doubt it is an S ratio box. It came out of a 65 Deluxe (my first Mini) and would be standard ratio and 3.765 diff I expect... I will have a closer look when I pull it out. I am interested in the serial number if possible. I have a few photos of the 22A1288 and so far have worked out 12FA 12345 was on the MK1 S engines from around 9FSAY 50000. Numbers in the 60000 range were on the Morris 1100. Numbers in the 30000 range were on the Morris 1100S. 5/1234 which I think are Deluxe. (5 relates to the YDO code) R1234/4 (The 4 could relate to the YDO code) Some UK boxes with serial numbers in the SFB30000s and 90000s The Morris 1100 - whether 'S' or 1100 - also had this later non-synchro 'box, however with the stamped coding 'R[i]xxxx[i]/4. Unsure of the '4' association, as the 'Basic' package for the Morris 1100 range was the only model coded YMG2S4 - the 1275 models being YMG2S2, and I believe these later 'box's were introduced throughout the entire range. Like the diff housing, the cases within the 1100 range also had a married flywheel housing stamped accordingly - the later casings also incorporated larger locating dowels. |
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| Author: | TartanRed [ Mon Apr 20, 2020 9:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 22a1128 gearbox - value? |
Mea culpa - I dragged out this gearbox tonight to look at the numbers... Turns out my memory is lousy. It is not a 22A1228. It is a 22G382 with a remote diff, which makes it a B type 3 synchro box. As it came out of my first Mini (a 65 Deluxe) I suspect it was likely the original transmission fitted to the car, even though it had a 1098 motor from a Morris 1100 fitted. Apologies for any confusion! I haven't checked the laygear but I'm 99% that it will be a standard wide ratio gearset and 3.7 diff setup. Cheers |
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| Author: | cooperess [ Thu Jul 13, 2023 3:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 22a1128 gearbox - value? |
I have a 22A1288 = R8865/4 box with no gears or layshaft which I would like to build. Which items do I need to fill the box. I guess it 3 speed synchro? |
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| Author: | gtogreen1969 [ Thu Jul 13, 2023 9:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 22a1128 gearbox - value? |
cooperess wrote: I have a 22A1288 = R8865/4 box with no gears or layshaft which I would like to build. Which items do I need to fill the box. I guess it 3 speed synchro? Its a 3 syncro box from a mid 1968 1100S. Engine number would have been around 12DTAH 8800s. Not sure what all the part numbers are that you will need to fill the box. |
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| Author: | cooperess [ Thu Jul 13, 2023 10:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 22a1128 gearbox - value? |
I thought all Morris 1100S's had 4 synchro gears! |
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| Author: | gtogreen1969 [ Thu Jul 13, 2023 10:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 22a1128 gearbox - value? |
cooperess wrote: I thought all Morris 1100S's had 4 synchro gears! The 22A1288 was a 3 syncro standardized box used over a few models from early 1968 to early 1969. Deluxe , Cooper S, Morris 1100, Morris 1100S, Moke - etc Here are a couple of other Morris 1100S boxes and the engines they are fitted to.You can see the serial numbers are close to the engine number 22G333 R1057/3 - Aug-67 fitted to 12YTAH 1042 22A1288 R10357/4 - Jul-68 fitted to 12YDTAH 10355 22A1288 R15842,4 - Mar-69 fitted to 12YDTAH 15849 |
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| Author: | drmini in aust [ Fri Jul 14, 2023 10:12 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 22a1128 gearbox - value? |
I have a 22G68 3 synchro from an MG1100 I'll never use. Has gearset, no diff no diff housing. Looks good inside. |
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| Author: | simon k [ Fri Jul 14, 2023 1:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 22a1128 gearbox - value? |
cooperess wrote: I thought all Morris 1100S's had 4 synchro gears! Nup, not even the last of them.. I have a 333 case out of an early 1100S, there's something I never knew existed. At least the early 1098 engined 1100s had 22G68 gearboxes |
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