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Just did and oil change and these fell out of the oil.
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Author:  Woody_Woodvine [ Sat Jan 11, 2020 3:04 pm ]
Post subject:  Just did and oil change and these fell out of the oil.
I found these metal bearing looking things attached to my drain plug for my oil. I don't know what they are and my car drove perfectly fine when I moved it from my bottom shed to my top garage. What are they?
Author:  Woody_Woodvine [ Sat Jan 11, 2020 3:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Just did and oil change and these fell out of the oil.
Even more have come out now. On starting to get worried because I know that the engine and gear box share the same oil. And I dont want either of them damaged
Author:  timmy201 [ Sat Jan 11, 2020 3:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Just did and oil change and these fell out of the oil.
They look like needle bearings - what length and diameter are they?
Author:  Woody_Woodvine [ Sat Jan 11, 2020 3:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Just did and oil change and these fell out of the oil.
timmy201 wrote:
They look like needle bearings - what length and diameter are they?

13mm in diameter and 3mm in length
Author:  9YaTaH [ Sun Jan 12, 2020 5:27 am ]
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With the size of those bits, I would suspect sabotage! :shock:

[broken diff bits left in sump?]
Author:  drmini in aust [ Sun Jan 12, 2020 6:17 am ]
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They look like 3mm dia x 13 long.
Idler gear bearings or maybe layshaft (less likely unless left behind on assembly).
No needle bearings are in diff..
Author:  slide [ Sun Jan 12, 2020 10:43 am ]
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Look like idler gear bearings most probably from the gearbox casing side dropping back out into the box, as they'd be unlikely to get out past the gear from the transfer housing side. Is the gear rattling?
Author:  Woody_Woodvine [ Sun Jan 12, 2020 11:10 am ]
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slide wrote:
Look like idler gear bearings most probably from the gearbox casing side dropping back out into the box, as they'd be unlikely to get out past the gear from the transfer housing side. Is the gear rattling?

No she drives fine. I asked a mechanic and he said it could be from the synchro. Is it possible at all?
Author:  drmini in aust [ Sun Jan 12, 2020 5:31 pm ]
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No. Synchro hubs have 3 balls and springs.

Old rollers could have been left in bottom of box when rebuilt, they can hide behind selector shafts. Seen before.
Author:  Hinesy1275 [ Sun Jan 12, 2020 9:15 pm ]
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These look like 2nd/3rd needle rollers (3-synchro 'box). Listen for exaggerated note or different gear whine accentuated in 2rd or 3rd. If you haven't driven for a while it may be something you're not used to hearing.

Otherwise as said above, needles could have been left behind in a previous build - easily done if not flushed.

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Author:  Woody_Woodvine [ Mon Jan 13, 2020 4:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Just did and oil change and these fell out of the oil.
Hinesy1275 wrote:
These look like 2nd/3rd needle rollers (3-synchro 'box). Listen for exaggerated note or different gear whine accentuated in 2rd or 3rd. If you haven't driven for a while it may be something you're not used to hearing.

Otherwise as said above, needles could have been left behind in a previous build - easily done if not flushed.

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I usually double clutch the car usually, I took it for a run without double clutching and no noise or anything like that. It shifts up and down smoothly.
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