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 Post subject: 850 looking big bore
PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 10:30 am 
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Is it feasible to fit a small bore head on a big bore (1100S) to make the engine "look" like an original 850.
I realise it would need chamber, valve and port work, but can you still get the original 1275 power ?

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 Post subject: Re: 850 looking big bore
PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 11:42 am 
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To use a smallbore head on a 1275 gasket, some water holes in the head need plugging & redrilling. See GR's project 68mm story on his website. I have just done this to a 202 head for a 68mm bore 998.
Yes it can be ported to flow like a stock 940 head.

(Edit) Why do this?? :?

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 Post subject: Re: 850 looking big bore
PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 12:01 pm 
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The most obvious thing about a big bore is the position of the thermostat housing.
If I have a small bore head on the big bore in my 850 it will "look" more original.
At a quick look in the engine bay it will look to the untrained eye like an original 850.

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 Post subject: Re: 850 looking big bore
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 Post subject: Re: 850 looking big bore
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gtogreen1969 wrote:
Sleeper 850

The pro's will quickly look further and discover what's going on, but the uninitiated might not 8)

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 Post subject: Re: 850 looking big bore
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Make sure the head isn't decked much, these old smallbore heads are all corroded inside and the deck is much thinner than a 1275 one.

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 Post subject: Re: 850 looking big bore
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You going to run a single HS2?

I'd be more inclined to keep the bonnet closed and run a real free flowing 1275.

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 Post subject: Re: 850 looking big bore
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1275 with an HS2 is a waste of time,IMO.
But it'll climb hills good. :)

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 Post subject: Re: 850 looking big bore
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I would go Twin HS2's and a Sticker on the rocker cover that reads "Sports M 850"


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 Post subject: Re: 850 looking big bore
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I put a 1098 crank & pistons in a Sports 850 back in the 60s. With stock head & cam it didn't rev hard, but boy it had some torque. Good sleeper.

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 Post subject: Re: 850 looking big bore
PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 8:17 pm 
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My first car was a 72 Clubman with a tired 1098. The car was 100% stock. I was able to pick up a reco 1330cc that replaced the original. So I was running it with the original carb, that is a HS2 and exhaust.
After about three months I saved up some money and then put on a set of Sprite SUs and extractor exhaust. It had twice the power!!!!!

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 Post subject: Re: 850 looking big bore
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So you think that the thermostat position is more noticeable than a big carby or an engine number starting with a 12?

Does seem a bit crazy to me .

It'd definitely be different.

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 Post subject: Re: 850 looking big bore
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maybe it will start with a 9? ;)

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 Post subject: Re: 850 looking big bore
PostPosted: Tue Jan 26, 2016 9:25 am 
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Well, I've gone to the trouble of replacing my rod change box with a 4 synchro box and 850 diff so that I will have a Magic Wand gear lever so the interior looks more original .
Was wondering what I could do in the engine bay to make it more 850ish.
I'm not after total originality, just a bit more like an 850.
It will still have the 1-3/4" SU and extractors (like a souped up 850) !

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 Post subject: Re: 850 looking big bore
PostPosted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 12:04 pm 
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just go with the full bore 1275

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