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Author:  mooman10_0 [ Sun Nov 29, 2015 6:14 pm ]
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Hi everyone, has anyone tried the air ride system from the uk? Interested to see what people think who have tried this.
http://airride.co.uk/air-suspension-kit ... ssic-mini/

Cheers,
Steve
Author:  1018cc [ Sun Nov 29, 2015 6:42 pm ]
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Welded suspension arms eh? Good luck getting that through a safety certificate. I'm pretty sure suspension parts can't be welded unless they've been x rayed and certified if they are to be road legal in this country?????

It looks like they've totally done away with the tie rod that mounts to the subframe right at the front of the car? :-/ It all looks like box section now back to the one mounting point.
Author:  mooman10_0 [ Sun Nov 29, 2015 6:52 pm ]
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Was thinking safety cert would be an issue, I think I'll keep the hydro and refurb rubbers/ new fluid :-)
Author:  Morris 1100 [ Sun Nov 29, 2015 7:30 pm ]
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OMG, that is terrible!

I have a great idea, lets take the best handling car and fiddle sticks it completely just so it sits on the deck...
Author:  Harley [ Sun Nov 29, 2015 8:53 pm ]
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That looks down right dangerous to me. By removing the upper cone and putting the weight of the car onto the bottom arms it means the balljoints are now working in tension and not compression as they were designed. The balljoint seats won't do anything and all the weight of the car now hangs on two nuts!

In addition to this, having the airbag at the front of the lower arm miles away from the vertical suspension loads induces a large twisting / leverage onto the arms - definitely not something a box section with a zig zag in it is meant to do!
Author:  willy [ Mon Nov 30, 2015 9:58 am ]
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Agree, the engineering behind this is pretty dodgey!!
Author:  simonw [ Mon Nov 30, 2015 12:02 pm ]
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Dumbest promo Vida I've seen in a while : .... Sorry sounds a bit negative .. But seriously ... It goes up .. It goes down ;p
Author:  Irish Yobbo [ Mon Nov 30, 2015 1:01 pm ]
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Quote:
These kits serve two functions – they improve the ride quality beyond comprehension – gone is the bouncy harsh ride from the cones (or coil springs if you converted), and you have a modern comfy ride, but it still retains all the character and handling the Mini is so famous for.


I'm always very critical when there are claims that it will only improve something with no downsides. It's still a spring/damper system like before (the rubber cone acts as a progressive spring), the only all-round 'improvement' you could get (not compromising on handling or comfort) would be to change the geometry.

Which they have - but I very much doubt putting all the weight of the car into the lower subframe (instead of the specifically designed suspension towers) via a welded lower control arm (instead of a cast iron arm) with the lower ball joint in tension (instead of compression, as designed) will do anything but degrade performance.

And on a side note, I'd venture that "the bouncy harsh ride" is what gives the character and handling the mini is so famous for.
Author:  Tim I [ Mon Nov 30, 2015 10:16 pm ]
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No. Just no.

On so many levels that is just on the express train to Wrongtown.

Airbag suspension is for buses and trucks... and it doesn't even work well on those either.
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