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Step 1: get it wheel aligned.
They will tell you what's wrong, whether it's crabbing (rear misalignment), and what parts if any are worn.

drmini in aust wrote:

Step 1: get it wheel aligned.
They will tell you what's wrong, whether it's crabbing (rear misalignment), and what parts if any are worn.

can you elaborate on crabbing (rear misalignment) please. the rear track width is wider than the front, would this have any affect? Can it be easily fixed?

Step 1: get it wheel aligned.
They will tell you what's wrong, whether it's crabbing (rear misalignment), and what parts if any are worn.

sounds very dangerous to me
i`d get a mini specialist to check it all over
so much stuff to look at & if you miss one (seemingly) silly thing
could mean disaster & pain
please get an experienced mini mechanic onto it???

Author:	green63 [ Thu Sep 10, 2015 9:16 pm ]
Post subject:	Steering feels sloppy
Sometimes it feels like there is a very fine line between oversteer and understeer. I feels unstable on long sweeping bends and tends to waiver a bit we steering from left to right or the opposite way (like when exiting a round-a-bout). im pretty sure the suspension (dry) is stuffed however im not sure if the bounciness is due to bad suspension or just a characteristic of minis. This is my first mini and ive only had it for 3 months so i havnt quite worked out whats is normal mini behavior and what isn't.

Author:	drmini in aust [ Thu Sep 10, 2015 10:20 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Steering feels sloppy
Step 1: get it wheel aligned. They will tell you what's wrong, whether it's crabbing (rear misalignment), and what parts if any are worn.

Author:	green63 [ Fri Sep 11, 2015 12:01 am ]
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drmini in aust wrote: Step 1: get it wheel aligned. They will tell you what's wrong, whether it's crabbing (rear misalignment), and what parts if any are worn. can you elaborate on crabbing (rear misalignment) please. the rear track width is wider than the front, would this have any affect? Can it be easily fixed?

Author:	drmini in aust [ Fri Sep 11, 2015 6:56 am ]
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green63 wrote: drmini in aust wrote: Step 1: get it wheel aligned. They will tell you what's wrong, whether it's crabbing (rear misalignment), and what parts if any are worn. can you elaborate on crabbing (rear misalignment) please. the rear track width is wider than the front, would this have any affect? Can it be easily fixed? Front track is wider than the rear unless something's been changed. But that shouldn't make it handle funny. Unlike crabbing... Crabbing occurs when toe-in at the rear is different side to side. This can happen if someone had hit a kerb eg. in a roundabout which makes the LH wheel toe-out, not in. My car had this prob when bought. Cure is find what is bent, whether trailing arm, stub axle or subframe, and get that fixed. Stock rear alignment is about 1/8" (3mm) total toe-IN, equal both sides. For track use or better turn in, this can be reduced. But go too far (eg toe-out) to and it can get twitchy in an emergency.

Author:	Besser [ Fri Sep 11, 2015 9:18 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Steering feels sloppy
Something you can also check is the clamp bolt at the bottom of the steering column inside the car. Make sure this is tight and you're splines are properly engaged.

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Author:	mini_mad_matt [ Fri Sep 11, 2015 5:46 pm ]
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From your explanation it sounds like something is loose, maybe a wheel bearing or suspension component. You could jack the car up and with the wheels off the ground, grab each wheel and give it a good push/pull when your hands are at 3/9 o'clock and again at 12/6 o'clock. But it really doesn't sound very good and i would recommend getting it looked at professionally ASAP.

Author:	9YaTaH [ Fri Sep 11, 2015 7:14 pm ]
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drmini in aust wrote: Step 1: get it wheel aligned. They will tell you what's wrong, whether it's crabbing (rear misalignment), and what parts if any are worn. Step 2: if the rack, ball joints etc need attention, drop everything and get it fixed!

Author:	drjbeam [ Fri Sep 11, 2015 9:13 pm ]
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Tie rod ends could be shot as well as all of the above If you start playing around with the tie rods don't forget to count the turns it takes to come off

Author:	green63 [ Fri Sep 11, 2015 11:15 pm ]
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Sounds like I've got a fair job on my hands, thanks for the advice.

Author:	TheMiniMan [ Sat Sep 12, 2015 9:05 am ]
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sounds very dangerous to me i`d get a mini specialist to check it all over so much stuff to look at & if you miss one (seemingly) silly thing could mean disaster & pain please get an experienced mini mechanic onto it???

Author:	9YaTaH [ Sat Sep 12, 2015 10:47 am ]
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TheMiniMan wrote: sounds very dangerous to me i`d get a mini specialist to check it all over so much stuff to look at & if you miss one (seemingly) silly thing could mean disaster & pain please get an experienced mini mechanic onto it??? I might get an electronic Rubber Stamp made up with that good advice on it Matt

Author:	green63 [ Fri Sep 25, 2015 1:20 pm ]
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I've managed to find time to investigate my steering issues and have found a couple of potential problems. 1. The RH tie rod end from the rack has quite a bit of movement when I move the hub with my hand. This doesn't look like it will be to difficult to do myself, provided I pay attention to the number of turns. 2. The LH track rod seems to show irregular movement at full lock to the left, the track rod touches the subframe rather than stop on its own accord, which i suspect it should. Also the steering wheel rotates more to the left than to the right, it rotates and extra 1/4 turn before full lock. I suspect there is an issues inside the left boot and was wondering if there is a repair kit for this or if I would have to replace the whole steering rack. I am willing to try my hand at all mechanical repairs however I think replacing the steering rack without help may be beyond my skills, all advice on this will be appreciated.

Author:	9YaTaH [ Fri Sep 25, 2015 3:00 pm ]
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AUSMINI ELECTRONIC RUBBER STAMP sounds very dangerous to me i`d get a mini specialist to check it all over so much stuff to look at & if you miss one (seemingly) silly thing could mean disaster & pain please get an experienced mini mechanic onto it??? AUSMINI ELECTRONIC RUBBER STAMP

Author:	goodie [ Fri Sep 25, 2015 9:31 pm ]
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Hey green63 , where abouts are you located ?, there maybe someone nearby that can help you out , or help diagnose your issues .

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Author:	green63 [ Thu Oct 01, 2015 11:20 pm ]
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Quick update: Had the steering rack replaced as well as the tie rod ends and a wheel alignment. She now handles like a dream. Thanks for the advice lads, saved me alot of grief i think.