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Author: | jprior2912 [ Sat Aug 23, 2014 5:20 pm ] |
Post subject: | Brake lights, where you go? |
Hi all So I took the mini out this afternoon to check speedo accuracy against another car which definitely has an accurate speedo (I'm so close hoorah!) Anyway, never had anybody really driving behind me before and they said I didn't have any brake lights, so did a test and they only come on when the brake pedal is pushed quite hard (which would fling me through the front windscreen if I did that while driving) Brakes seem to be quite good - not a whole lot of travel at all and come on quite strong. So what causes this and how do I fix this? Thanks James |
Author: | Morris 1100 [ Sat Aug 23, 2014 5:23 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Brake lights, where you go? |
Your brake light switch is too old. The diaphragm inside it has gone hard with age and it takes more pressure to operate the switch. |
Author: | jprior2912 [ Sat Aug 23, 2014 5:45 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Brake lights, where you go? |
Morris 1100 wrote: Your brake light switch is too old. The diaphragm inside it has gone hard with age and it takes more pressure to operate the switch. Cheers Morris 1100 This doesn't sound fun to fix, I'm pretty sure I have this http://minisport.com.au/mini-moke-hydra ... ght-switch at the moment (obvz old one). Should I just replace with that? or is this one better/useable? http://minisport.com.au/mini-under-peda ... ght-switch |
Author: | Morris 1100 [ Sat Aug 23, 2014 5:55 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Brake lights, where you go? |
I replaced my hydraulic switch about ten years ago. The ones on the pedals are probably a lot simpler but you do need to mount it. But, your hydraulic switch is just one part of the braking system that is showing its age, how old are the rubber hoses? |
Author: | Mick [ Sat Aug 23, 2014 7:19 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Brake lights, where you go? |
jprior2912 wrote: This doesn't sound fun to fix... You would be surprised! A socket is all you need to undo it. Top up you master cylinder first as you will lose a little fluid. Unscrew the old one, screw up the new one, and let the fluid flow around the switch a little as it goes back in, this will exclude nearly all the air for you. With a little luck you won't need to bleed the brakes ![]() |
Author: | jprior2912 [ Sat Aug 23, 2014 7:45 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Brake lights, where you go? |
Mick wrote: jprior2912 wrote: This doesn't sound fun to fix... You would be surprised! A socket is all you need to undo it. Top up you master cylinder first as you will lose a little fluid. Unscrew the old one, screw up the new one, and let the fluid flow around the switch a little as it goes back in, this will exclude nearly all the air for you. With a little luck you won't need to bleed the brakes ![]() What? Something easy to fix on a mini? You learn something new everyday ![]() I'm contemplating doing the pedal box conversion - where you use the mechanical switch, but THAT doesn't look fun to do either ![]() |
Author: | Mick [ Sat Aug 23, 2014 7:47 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Brake lights, where you go? |
jprior2912 wrote: Mick wrote: jprior2912 wrote: This doesn't sound fun to fix... You would be surprised! A socket is all you need to undo it. Top up you master cylinder first as you will lose a little fluid. Unscrew the old one, screw up the new one, and let the fluid flow around the switch a little as it goes back in, this will exclude nearly all the air for you. With a little luck you won't need to bleed the brakes ![]() What? Something easy to fix on a mini? You learn something new everyday ![]() I'm contemplating doing the pedal box conversion - where you use the mechanical switch, but THAT doesn't look fun to do either ![]() You will find its just behind the clutch cover, so use a long extension bar on the socket and it will snare it pretty easily. ![]() |
Author: | danny_ [ Sat Aug 23, 2014 8:22 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Brake lights, where you go? |
jprior2912 wrote: Mick wrote: jprior2912 wrote: This doesn't sound fun to fix... You would be surprised! A socket is all you need to undo it. Top up you master cylinder first as you will lose a little fluid. Unscrew the old one, screw up the new one, and let the fluid flow around the switch a little as it goes back in, this will exclude nearly all the air for you. With a little luck you won't need to bleed the brakes ![]() What? Something easy to fix on a mini? You learn something new everyday ![]() I'm contemplating doing the pedal box conversion - where you use the mechanical switch, but THAT doesn't look fun to do either ![]() Took me 20min and cost $10. $9 Toyota brake light switch and $1 angle from bunnings. 2 self tapping screws and i was able to use the existing wiring. |
Author: | phillb [ Sat Aug 23, 2014 8:25 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Brake lights, where you go? |
There was a time when the "new" hydraulic switches were poor quality and not lasting long. Any updates of experience on where to buy a decent quality one? |
Author: | Morris 1100 [ Sat Aug 23, 2014 8:30 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Brake lights, where you go? |
Get one in a box with a brand name on it it from a proper parts place. Don't buy it in a plain plastic bag from anyone with the word "Mini" in the store name. |
Author: | jprior2912 [ Sat Aug 23, 2014 10:47 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Brake lights, where you go? |
danny_ wrote: Took me 20min and cost $10. $9 Toyota brake light switch and $1 angle from bunnings. 2 self tapping screws and i was able to use the existing wiring. Danny_ So you put a mechanical switch on the pedal box? Do you have any pictures of your work? I'm definitely considering this. Did you do it in situ or did you take out the pedal box? phillb wrote: There was a time when the "new" hydraulic switches were poor quality and not lasting long. Any updates of experience on where to buy a decent quality one? Phill, This was my concern in replacing the hydraulic pressure switch, I heard they had been quite poor quality. |
Author: | drmini in aust [ Sun Aug 24, 2014 6:19 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Brake lights, where you go? |
Another advantage of a mechanical switch on the pedal (apart from reliability) is the stop lights come on BEFORE the brakes get pressure, so the poor sod behind you has a better chance of not cleaning you up. ![]() |
Author: | slide [ Sun Aug 24, 2014 10:22 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Brake lights, where you go? |
Same thing here. Hydraulic switch was slow to activate and took a lot of foot pressure, so I replaced it with a mechanical switch on the pedal bracket. Used a right hand drill extension to put a hole through the bracket to bolt a switch to. Original Mini brake lights, like I have on my van, are small and inconspicuous at the best of times by today's standards. Clubman type are marginally better. Don't particulary like high level back window led brake lights on a Mini, they may be functional but they just look so out of place on a classic. |
Author: | jprior2912 [ Sun Aug 24, 2014 12:08 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Brake lights, where you go? |
slide wrote: Same thing here. Hydraulic switch was slow to activate and took a lot of foot pressure, so I replaced it with a mechanical switch on the pedal bracket. Used a right hand drill extension to put a hole through the bracket to bolt a switch to. Original Mini brake lights, like I have on my van, are small and inconspicuous at the best of times by today's standards. Clubman type are marginally better. Don't particulary like high level back window led brake lights on a Mini, they may be functional but they just look so out of place on a classic. Yeah that's my concern. I don't feel like getting cleaned up cause of dodgy brake lights. Do you have a photo of where abouts you mounted the switch? I'm not exactly sure where the best place to put it is haha |
Author: | Diesel27 [ Sun Aug 24, 2014 3:25 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Brake lights, where you go? |
I had one bolted under the accelerator pedal mounting bolts. |
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