might be getting it in a deal
so i am thinking of offloading it
not sure yet
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| Author: | Roundie [ Wed Jun 06, 2007 7:55 pm ] |
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Whats a turbo metro engine worth in unknown condition |
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| Author: | DOZ [ Wed Jun 06, 2007 8:05 pm ] |
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An unknown amount? Seriously though, can you turn the engine over? Is it possible to hook a battery to the starter and at least do a compression test? Check the oil, is it black? Does the turbo feel like it has too much movement? Is there anything missing? Questions Questions. They are getting old and it would cost a bit to rebuild but would be the best starting point if you are going turbo. Daniel |
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| Author: | Roundie [ Wed Jun 06, 2007 8:09 pm ] |
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might be getting it in a deal so i am thinking of offloading it not sure yet
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| Author: | dove grey 64 [ Wed Jun 06, 2007 8:12 pm ] |
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if you can find one, in crappy and untested condition, i'd say around 2k. quite a few in the uk up for grabs, so put more ontop of the 2k for shipping, and then factor in another few k's for rebuild and turbo etc etc etc. you can make your existing A series just as good as a metro turbo........just depends on how far you want to go and how much you want to spend |
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| Author: | slinkey inc [ Wed Jun 06, 2007 8:47 pm ] |
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They are not quite as good as they sound. Basically, from what I've read on Turbominis forum, they are an MG Metro engine with non-Mg cam, (stock Metro) and bascially a normal Metro engine. They do have tough pistons though and some have fancy cranks and they have 'turbo' bearings. Interesting they have 9.4:1 compression standard. Which isn't all that high, but for a turbo, thats real high, so limited amounts of boost can be used in standard form. To get real info, rather than second hand, info. of what I can remember go to http://www.turbominis.co.uk go to the forum and do a search, or theres a sticky I believe. But bascially I'm saying, the motor itself is not really something to rave over, the exhasut manifold, carby, inlet, turbo, however is something to rave about (although carby and plenums can be made to work without that much effort, but using stock stuff is easier.) |
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| Author: | DOZ [ Wed Jun 06, 2007 8:52 pm ] |
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It would have to be running for 2k 
The exhaust valves cost nearly $100ea to replace. Engine bearings and other things are different too (more exxe than std types). If the engine condition is truely unknown you are asking for trouble. I got a turbo rebuilt and it cost $900, a brand new one was only $1200 so buying an engine like that is a gamble. Daniel |
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| Author: | KLAS [ Wed Jun 06, 2007 9:23 pm ] |
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the turbo engine is nothing special, just an A+ metro with minor changes. the 1st motion shaft nose bearing is a bit bigger, the "turbo bearings" are the later standard nongrooved ones, very strong turbo pistons, the sodium cooled exhaust valves can be replaced with modern unleaded valves without problems (but the sodium ones have 8mm shafts). i have never seen any fancy crankshafts only heared of EN40B "turbo" ones. the high CR helps with part throttle economy i wouldn't pay more than for any other engine as most turbos became abused. the turbo related parts should checked carefully if you realy want them |
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| Author: | meeni [ Wed Jun 06, 2007 9:24 pm ] |
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no 2k is right from what ive looked at for an untested motor.. they are getting rarer and rarer as metros get rustier and rustier. mg metro motor just without the turbos are brilliant. so im assuming the turbo ones are good too |
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| Author: | mason [ Thu Jun 07, 2007 8:59 am ] |
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You pay heaps for one in NZ in running condition |
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| Author: | dove grey 64 [ Thu Jun 07, 2007 9:13 am ] |
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i know a place in melbourne that would want 3.5-4k for a running one, no jokes |
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| Author: | slinkey inc [ Thu Jun 07, 2007 4:30 pm ] |
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Why not turbo a non-turbo motor? With the turbo motor the pistons are real tough, but if the motors worn and needs oversizing, the pistons are useless. Buy some good quality ones for he oversize your going too, hell, if the motors oversized it may not have the tough pistons anymore. Toughen up a 1275 and turbo that. The turbo gear (exhaust manifold, inlet parts, carby etc) are usefull and worth a lot accordingly, if you are serious about turboing go to turbominis.co.uk they'll certainly give you some useful info. |
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| Author: | low n blown [ Thu Jun 07, 2007 4:39 pm ] |
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Boys, Roundie and I just bought a job lot, included some good Sh*t for a bargain basement price. Have already checked the net, can get a T2 turbo and Mirage brand manifold that means it can be fitted to a mini without modifying the bulkhead. Apparently can run as high as 20psi. As for the block it will get a full rebuild and the usual lightened balanced treatment. Good thing about the metro turbos they have cross bracing in the block, which was a drawback with the supercharged motor, kept flexing and had to brace the block myself. I have a spare set of Cossy pistons here 7.0 to one. Niiiice. I think low'n blown is definitely up for sale, am seeing another project on the horizon, if it doesnt sell should be able to find someone to keep it in their garage for me for a while? |
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| Author: | dove grey 64 [ Thu Jun 07, 2007 4:48 pm ] |
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sounds good low'n blown, when you say "cross bracing" are you just just talking about the cast webbing around the block? if so, thats not just on metro turbos, its on all A+ blocks. its one easy way of identifying an a series to a A+. im about to strip my engine down, when i bought it i was told it was a metro turbo engine, just without the turbo hanging off it, im about to find out if i've been lied to or not (wouldnt surprise me if it wasnt a turbo block) 
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| Author: | low n blown [ Thu Jun 07, 2007 6:16 pm ] |
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Yeh beside the webbing they have a solid centre main, unlike an 1100s block and have no cam follower covers like a Cooper S, plus the block to gearbox flange is thicker, similar to a MK 2 S. On the supercharged one this allowed me to redrill the gearbox and put in larger bolts to also help prevent distortion. But i had to bolt on a large plate over the rear of the cam followers to help it hold together. It was distorting badly at over 14psi, but this fixed the problem. A lot of dicking around tho. They are a decent block for getting big HP from, they have all the positives in the A series. PS we will have a lot of crap to sell at the swap meet including a clubby shell, fully painted with a flip front. Is currently covered in dust so will post some pics once we clean it. But paint job looks good. |
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| Author: | slinkey inc [ Thu Jun 07, 2007 7:31 pm ] |
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If that clubby body is courier-able. And doesn't sell to a local, I wouldn't mind knowing the price and some pics and what not. I'm driving (with my dad) to Sydney later in the year, so maybe a longer trip with Brisband included might be something to think about. Depending of cost of shell and all, and what happens, but I'm looking for a Clubby to 4EFTE and yeah. |
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