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Author:  ben23f [ Fri Mar 04, 2022 9:29 am ]
Post subject:  Fitting Flare extensions
Hi All,

I will be fitting the factory flare extensions on my clubby this weekend and was after some tips/guidance, specifically where along the body line do they fit?
The fronts have the little cut-out for the vertical seam, but what about the rear?

Thanks in advance
Author:  Bill B [ Fri Mar 04, 2022 12:00 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Fitting Flare extensions
The rears also have a cutout towards the back, to fit around the horizontal body flange that is just in front of the bumper bar ends.
Good luck. Be patient. It can be a frustrating job that takes a few attempts to get close to right - well, for me it does.

There are bits of information on here if you search "fitting flares" in the Chat section.
Author:  ben23f [ Tue Mar 08, 2022 1:08 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Fitting Flare extensions
Hmm the rear ones I have don't have a cutout.
Maybe I can find the drawings somewhere and workout where the cutout should be...
Author:  Steam [ Tue Mar 08, 2022 5:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Fitting Flare extensions
The cut out is 10mm , 75mm from the bottom edge, the top of the cutout being 85mm from the very bottom edge of the flare. See pic.
Author:  slacko [ Tue Mar 08, 2022 7:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Fitting Flare extensions
Are you asking about the flare it self, or the metal base plate ?
Author:  Bill B [ Tue Mar 08, 2022 8:38 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Fitting Flare extensions
slacko wrote:
Are you asking about the flare it self, or the metal base plate ?


Good point.
The factory style backing strip also has a cut-out on the rear piece that matches the ABS plastic outer part as in Steam's photo.
Attachment:
RH Rear flare back strip.jpg

The factory style backing strip for the front flare does not have a cut out (the vertical seam is cut off slightly).

These photos are for a factory-fitted 1970 S. Maybe the clubman style flare is different.
Author:  ben23f [ Wed Mar 09, 2022 1:22 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Fitting Flare extensions
Yeh sorry, was asking about the metal backing plate.
Since the rears are apparently the same between round nose and clubman, I can probably make a decent guess from the photos above. Thanks
Author:  cgo [ Wed Mar 09, 2022 1:47 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Fitting Flare extensions
Just had a look at my 1969 Aussie car, not a Clubman obviously, the flare backing strip is fitted from below the wheel arch seam and spot welded in place. Therefore there is no need for cutout in the rear backing plate. Replacement rear backing plates, I have seen, do not have a cutout, they have a hole which I believe is a guide to line up the backing plate with the horizontal seam behind the rear wheel arch.
Author:  Bill B [ Wed Mar 09, 2022 5:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Fitting Flare extensions
cgo wrote:
Just had a look at my 1969 Aussie car, not a Clubman obviously, the flare backing strip is fitted from below the wheel arch seam and spot welded in place. Therefore there is no need for cutout in the rear backing plate. Replacement rear backing plates, I have seen, do not have a cutout, they have a hole which I believe is a guide to line up the backing plate with the horizontal seam behind the rear wheel arch.


Well, that's interesting. Did the factory fit the flare support strip above or below the body flange? Or either?

In the photo I posted of my 8/70 S, of the RH rear wheel arch, there does appear to be a hole that has been opened up to fit over the horizontal body seam.
The LH side is identical - as in being spot welded ABOVE the body seam, so needing a cutout. As there is no evidence of accident damage or retro-fitting, perhaps the factory fitted the support strips both under and over the seam?

This discrepancy looks like a job for Super -gtogreen1969 -man.

At least 'ben23f' has been helped.
Author:  ausdino [ Wed Mar 09, 2022 8:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Fitting Flare extensions
Hi Clive/Bill,
My 3/70 Mk2 S has them under (like Clives') as per photo. You can also see the hole (not the many old rivet holes I will have to weld up). I think they attached the flare bases both ways, maybe on top for the later cars. A mate whom had a 7/70 S, was horrified his car was butchered when I queried his "ontop" flare bases. I do recollect at the time (a few years ago) winabbey told him his cars' were ontop as well. I wonder why they changed and when?
Author:  timmy201 [ Wed Mar 09, 2022 8:23 pm ]
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Doug has posted the BMC instructions in the past. They say under the existing flange
viewtopic.php?p=970921#p970921
Author:  cgo [ Wed Mar 09, 2022 8:35 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Fitting Flare extensions
Thanks Ausdino, I was little confused as the 4 backing strips/flare bases on my 10/69 S are attached (spot welded) from below. I bought the car in 1978 and didn't think a previous owner would have modified them, but who knows. As you said, would be interesting to find out why and when the factory changed how they were attached.
Author:  Bill B [ Wed Mar 09, 2022 11:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Fitting Flare extensions
cgo wrote:
Thanks Ausdino, I was little confused as the 4 backing strips/flare bases on my 10/69 S are attached (spot welded) from below. I bought the car in 1978 and didn't think a previous owner would have modified them, but who knows. As you said, would be interesting to find out why and when the factory changed how they were attached.


And thanks Peter, for your input. I've had my car since 1975 and am sure there has not been any accident repair work to any panel. So we wait for some more detail on this.

Good thing we have time on ours hands......
Author:  ausdino [ Thu Mar 10, 2022 1:17 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Fitting Flare extensions
I bought the car pictured in 1983, with no appreciable accident damage. All spot welded on. My first mk2 S (11/1969 build) purchased in 1976 also had the flare bases under. Might be just one of those BMC things…
Author:  cgo [ Thu Mar 10, 2022 4:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Fitting Flare extensions
Checked out a 10/70 S today, rear backing panels looked original, were spot welded and fixed from above with the cut out to fit over the horizontal body seam as shown in Bill B's earlier photo. Fronts had been modified. So the change was made sometime between 10/69 and 9/70, based on 2 samples only.
Also looked at an unmolested 1978 - 1275 LS, front and rear backing panels were all fitted from above and spot welded.
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