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Author:  clip [ Sun May 17, 2020 9:51 pm ]
Post subject:  Trap for young players #2
Got the crap scared out of me today. Pulled up at lights waiting to make a sharp 90 degree right hand turn. When the lights went green I gave the mini a bit of a boot full as I turned. This ripped the steering wheel out of my hand, putting it on full lock and spearing me into the center medium strip which I missed by centimetres. Just managed to get a grip and reefed it back into line! Won’t be trying that trick again :oops:
Author:  Ian_B [ Tue May 19, 2020 5:54 pm ]
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Do you have a little sports steering wheel :wink:
Author:  clip [ Tue May 19, 2020 6:36 pm ]
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Yep, sure has :lol:
Author:  Scoop [ Tue May 19, 2020 8:41 pm ]
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I'd recommend a bigger sport's steering wheel!!!
Author:  Hobson [ Wed May 20, 2020 12:21 pm ]
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Or driving gloves!
Author:  fuzzy-hair-man [ Wed May 20, 2020 3:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Trap for young players #2
Or less wide and/or less offset outwards on your front wheels, increases scrub radius and therefore the influence bumps and differing traction has over the steering, contributes to torque steer effects.
Author:  Bill B [ Wed May 20, 2020 3:53 pm ]
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clip wrote:
…... This ripped the steering wheel out of my hand, putting it on full lock and spearing me into the center medium strip …...


I am interested to know:
Why didn't the steering attempt to self-centre, which is what I thought a road-going suspension setup normally did, if you let go of the wheel?
Author:  clip [ Wed May 20, 2020 4:31 pm ]
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Scoop wrote:
I'd recommend a bigger sport's steering wheel!!!

It's not a tiny sports wheel, but certainly nothing near the size of the original

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Author:  clip [ Wed May 20, 2020 4:36 pm ]
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fuzzy-hair-man wrote:
Or less wide and/or less offset outwards on your front wheels, increases scrub radius and therefore the influence bumps and differing traction has over the steering, contributes to torque steer effects.

Wheels are old ROH style, with not much outwards offset, doesn't need the flares for them to fit under. Tyres are Yokos 165/70

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Author:  clip [ Wed May 20, 2020 4:55 pm ]
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Bill B wrote:
clip wrote:
…... This ripped the steering wheel out of my hand, putting it on full lock and spearing me into the center medium strip …...


I am interested to know:
Why didn't the steering attempt to self-centre, which is what I thought a road-going suspension setup normally did, if you let go of the wheel?

It is an unusual intersection in that it is a two lane 90 degree RH turn with the inner lane (the one I was in) not having much lead up to make the turn so need to be on about 3/4 lock almost from start to make it I reckon. I think because I gave it a bootful on this lock, the torque steer just grabbed it and pulled it round to full lock. I turn this corner everyday and don't have a problem, just that I got a bit over excited and to be completely honest, the right foot pushed quite a lot harder than usual. It all happened very quickly, but I won't be doing it again.
Author:  Andosoft [ Wed May 20, 2020 5:39 pm ]
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New steering rack with old arms? Geometry change with a tighter circle?

Could have just been you 'powered on' a Grippy/uneven piece of road and had a relaxed grip - just happened to dig in. Do you drive straight or bent arm?

Maybe it's just learning what your setup will do in certain conditions, it sounds like you have a quite a pokey little engine you have. I remember the first few times I torque steered off the line as a new driver I was literally going from one side of the road to the other. But learnt how to control it and where those limits were - that's why they are so fun to drive right :)
Author:  9YaTaH [ Wed May 20, 2020 5:46 pm ]
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You could always try these :!: :?:
Author:  clip [ Wed May 20, 2020 9:22 pm ]
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9YaTaH wrote:
You could always try these :!: :?:

That would fix it, but where can I get them? :lol:
Author:  clip [ Wed May 20, 2020 9:35 pm ]
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Andosoft wrote:
New steering rack with old arms? Geometry change with a tighter circle?

Could have just been you 'powered on' a Grippy/uneven piece of road and had a relaxed grip - just happened to dig in. Do you drive straight or bent arm?

Maybe it's just learning what your setup will do in certain conditions, it sounds like you have a quite a pokey little engine you have. I remember the first few times I torque steered off the line as a new driver I was literally going from one side of the road to the other. But learnt how to control it and where those limits were - that's why they are so fun to drive right :)

Steering rack is the only thing I haven’t replaced, but I think you’re right in that I didn’t have a tight grip, and the new engine build has bags of low down torque. So maybe just a combination of things I guess, but it sure did scare the hell out of me when I came so close to mounting the centre island and slamming into the traffic light pole. It must have looked weird to the other traffic waiting at the lights!
Author:  winabbey [ Wed May 20, 2020 9:55 pm ]
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If you are unsure, is there somewhere open and without obstacles where you could test the handling under various conditions?
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