For sure after Lillee the rover felt slow!
Starting to feel fast again as the memory fades

That's the other thing. Technically not a cent to spend on the rover, just my own little upgrades.
Buying into a new unknown package could be scary.

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Bit of a thread revive.

I assume this was a Morris 1300 auto engine and box?

In the past month looking for matics nearly all of them have had some sort of gearbox issue, or come with a spare engine that did have gearbox issues.
This seems to be put down to the sharing of oil between the engine and the gearbox.


I'm wondering if the morris setup is the same and suffers the same issues?
If not, seems like putting one of those in a matic solves the sluggishness and longevity issues.

not sure how often they come up though...

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Hoj...part of owning a Matic is changing the oil regularly...no way around that.

I believe The Doc just mated a 1275cc donk to a Matic box...it can be done

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Ah yeh I'm happy to change the oil, the worry is buying one off someone who hasn't (like me on the first Matic I owned, totally unaware of it. Box was fine when I sold it but feel bad for the next owner)

If the Morris setup doesn't hold the same risk then it's tempting.

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A friend of mine owned it, he took the motor and gearbox from a Morris 1100S (1275) automatic and dropped it into the Matic.
Gearbox is the same as a 998 Matic.
The gearing was pretty low for a 1275 with the Mini's 10" wheels, so he put 12" wheels and high profile tyres on the front.
I sold the car to a friend on here, he fitted twin HS2 carbs and it went fairly well. He then resprayed it in white 2 pack and sold it. To another ausmini member.

Yes it shares the oil same as a manual does, that's why they MUST have frequent oil changes. Facing material from the auto's clutch plates gets into the oil as they wear.

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Ah cool sounds like a fun car!

Thanks for the advice. Guess if you catch a Matic with a dead gearbox then replacing thee whole unit from a Morris would be an interesting option.

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all, i am looking to bring a running auto in from japan and strip it, any ideas on what a 1275 auto would be worth? its only done 40,000kms.

LittleHoju your welcome to have a drive if your ever my way.

If it helps I sold my 87 manual for 11.5. Sold in two days with three buyers prepared to come and get it. The eBay ones all seem to think $20k is ballpark but I've never seen one actually sell.

I'd never turn down a drive in a mini!

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Import one in from Japan, the auctions are about 80% Auto and some pretty good ones! on road in OZ all up around 13k-16k.

PM me for the full details on who i am using if keen.


As i am pulling the auto out i just want to know how much the are worth motor on its own.

Nah I'm after a classic myself, thanks though

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Re driving technique:
A family friend who was a Larke Hoskins mechanic when minis were new once told me that he thought the AP gearbox was very good but damage could be done by unsuspecting owners. It was meant to be driven in D for automatic or manually moved through the gears BUT some people left it in 4th constantly instead of D. While it did work in 4th, damage (to the bands?) was done.
Someone with knowledge of the box might like to comment as I don't have any personal experience with autos.

Back in the day a Matic was considered quite nippy - when driven in town. And a few years ago there was a very successful Victorian khana driver who used a 1300 auto.

I must admit that I've never (sic) driven one using the auto mode. The shift gate was notched (unlike any standard auto) to facilitate manual shifts. It was the nearest thing to a sequential gearbox for decades (apart from a GT40:). This made it quicker around town than any normal Deluxe.

I would bet that treated to proper routine maintenance one would last for years.

Later autos are a bit different in that they have a "Park" slot but I don't know what other changes were made.

I reckon if you wanted a Mini, but only had one leg, a late model Japanese 1275 auto would be the way to go...

Cheers, Ian

I've heard/read that using the box "manually" is preferable for longevity rather than leaving it in D...

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Be interesting to know the theory behind either one being beneficial or detrimental. Happy to take 2 matics and drive them using both techniques - any donors?

The import units just look way too complex - more risk of something going wrong and expense to fix?

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Mini autobox doesn't know 'who' shifted gears and doesn't care. I have stripped and fixed a few.

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