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PostPosted: Tue Nov 12, 2024 9:19 am 
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what would stop you using a buck converter ? like a LM2596 you could turn it to what ever wattage you need ??


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 12, 2024 12:47 pm 
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i got a mini wrote:
what would stop you using a buck converter ? like a LM2596 you could turn it to what ever wattage you need ??


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 12, 2024 4:17 pm 
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i got a mini wrote:
what would stop you using a buck converter ? like a LM2596 you could turn it to what ever wattage you need ??

The overpriced buck converters from Jaycar are only $10, Xc4514.
They're not big, are easy to get, and are not any harder to wire up than just a chip.
You won't be able to jam one into the old regulator case, but it fits easily behind the gauges. You also need to protect it from contacting anything conductive, I used a small bit of conduit.

I have one on my Temp gauge, and slightly altered the voltage to get the normal operating temperature to be in the centre of the gauge.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 12, 2024 4:54 pm 
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andrew9 wrote:
i got a mini wrote:
what would stop you using a buck converter ? like a LM2596 you could turn it to what ever wattage you need ??

The overpriced buck converters from Jaycar are only $10, Xc4514.
They're not big, are easy to get, and are not any harder to wire up than just a chip.
You won't be able to jam one into the old regulator case, but it fits easily behind the gauges. You also need to protect it from contacting anything conductive, I used a small bit of conduit.

I have one on my Temp gauge, and slightly altered the voltage to get the normal operating temperature to be in the centre of the gauge.


I'm not an electrical engineer.. but I have played around with these before.

I can see there might be 2 issues with a buck regulator:
-produce a noisy DC output (works on average output voltage rather than a linear voltage)
-only support a relatively low current (<3amps)

Not sure if either of these are an issue for the circuit.. guessing probably not but worth calling out.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 13, 2024 4:16 pm 
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68+86auto wrote:
The LM7810 is no longer so easy to get. Neither Jaycar or Altronics sell it. The capacitors aren't needed.

There's not even a good option on eBay. Last time someone was looking for one, I found Wiltronics had an alternative in stock. https://www.wiltronics.com.au/product/6648/10v-voltage-regulator-ldo/

There are proper component suppliers which should have them but by the time you add shipping it becomes expensive. Even then, the big component suppliers don't come up on google as having them which is unusual.

I've thought of making some which can fit exactly like original without reusing the original cases. The ones which are currently available are expensive. There's one seller of an alternative which doesn't even supply terminals with it.


A possible alternative to using a LM7810. May help if you can't source 7810s.
Before I even knew of the existence of the LM7810, I had used 7805s for a few projects. In 2002, I used a 7805 and 2 resistors to boost the voltage output to 10V from a voltage stabilizer on my Triumph Spitfire which uses Lucas components in its electrical system. The stabilizer looks identical to my Mini ones. I followed the instructions from an old 1980 Dick Smith Electronic catalog, see the photo. Calculated the resistor values from the 2 simple formulae and used probably 1/2W resistors with values as close as possible to the calculated ones. Fitted the connected bits into the gutted stabilizer case, it's still functioning today.


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