Bill B wrote:
Well done! The original pumps have long-since ceased production so it's good to see some ingenuity.
As a fan of hydrolastic, it's good to see innovative approaches using existing technology to keep cars on the road.
Was wondering where a vacuum pump would fit into your setup and whether there is a 'no-loss' capability? Or is that built into the manifold?
Is it worth putting together a detailed description of your system, with part numbers, for others to copy in the future?
At correct ride-height and pressure you should notice a much better ride/handling combination; a bit lower ride height and it is even better.
There is an excellent no-loss capability. Far better than the factory pump where it is a separate hose. There is a dedicated vacuum pump fitting and the "VAC" valve isolates this from the system. It is designed so that when working on a refrigeration system minimal air is introduced. As well as the fitting being able to be hand loosened for bleeding there is also a dedicated valve core which can be depressed for the pump side. Simply press it and pump until fluid comes out.
It is of course optional to be able to connect both sides of the suspension at once but is convenient and reduces the entry of air. I used a four way manifold so that there is a dedicated hose and valve for everything. a cheaper three way manifold could be used however you would have to use one of the gauge ports for vac/refill and have only one output hose or lose some of the benefits. These four way manifolds aren't much more expensive though.
Here's a diagram I just made which should explain it.
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I was thinking of adding some instructions at least, I will also add some details of what I purchased.
Here's the main components purchased:
Manifold:
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Vacuum pump:
Hand operated pumps etc could be used too but would need adaptors, easier to just get one of these pneumatic ones. They are rubbish for actual aircon work but are fine for this purpose.
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Pressure pump:
Any other pump can also be used.
Typical cheap stuff, listed as 1/4 but was 1/2 bsp.
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Schrader Coupling:
One of mine is one of the ones from Airtec and is far better quality. This cheap one I had to file it to allow proper flow. If you can find one with the JIC 37° 7/16-20 UNF male thread then I think it will fit directly to the aircon hoses without an adaptor. I already had one 1/8 npt one so I bought some adaptors.
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Fittings will also be needed to connect the pump to the aircon hose. That means 1/2 BSP to 1/4 flare. I already had these fittings lying around.
Instructions I will recheck these tomorrow for errors.
Valve "V1" on the RP50 pump can be permanently left open.
To depressurize:- close VAC valve on manifold
- Connect service fitting/s to vehicle.
- Screw in core depressor/s
- open associated service valve/s on manifold
- open REF valve on manifold
- open V2 on pump
the pressure will drain to the pump reservoir. If you want to dispose of the old fluid you could remove the hose from the pump first and use a bottle.To evacuate/vacuum and refill- close REF and VAC valves on manifold
- close V2 on pump
- ensure there is no pressure in pump for safety (release pressure via V2 if needed)
- depress bleed valve on manifold (remove cap). If there is no bleed valve on your manifold loosen the hose.
- gently pump until fluid comes out and then release the bleed valve. The pump side is now free of air.
- Connect service fitting/s to vehicle.
- Screw in core depressor/s
- ensure there is no/low pressure shown on gauges
- close REF valve on manifold
- start vacuum pump
- open VAC valve on manifold only slightly.
See following reply- open applicable service valve/s on manifold
- run vacuum until gauge/s reach desired reading
- close VAC valve on manifold
- stop vacuum pump
- open REF valve on manifold. Fluid will now be drawn into the system.
- pump slowly to desired pressure. Individual service valves can be closed to only increase one side, I would start with both open if both sides are empty.
Increasing pressure when the service fittings have been disconnected- close REF and VAC valves on manifold
- close V2 on pump
- ensure there is no pressure in pump for safety (release pressure via V2 if needed)
- depress bleed valve on manifold (remove cap). If there is no bleed valve on your manifold loosen the hose.
- gently pump until fluid comes out and then release the bleed valve. The pump side is now free of air.
- Connect service fitting/s to vehicle.
- loosen hose/s on service fittings
- open REF and service valve/s on manifold
- pump until fluid comes out of loose connection/s and tighten.
There is now minimal air in the hoses except for the amount in the coupler.- Screw in core depressor/s
- pump up to desired pressure.
Disconnecting from vehicleThis procedure is to ensure you don't get sprayed with high pressure fluid.- Screw out core depressor/s
- open REF and service valve/s on manifold
- open V2 on pump.