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Author: | meeni [ Tue Jul 08, 2014 6:35 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Leonidas - Mid-mount, RWD, VTEC Mini |
If this is a track car, what class will it be running in? |
Author: | Archangel007 [ Tue Jul 08, 2014 7:23 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Leonidas - Mid-mount, RWD, VTEC Mini |
Hey Meeni, The car is being built specifically for Time Attack, and maybe the occasional hillclimb. For anymore info you will have to ask the owner I'm afraid. My mandate was that it had to beat Porsches..... Cheers, Tricky |
Author: | meeni [ Tue Jul 08, 2014 8:10 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Leonidas - Mid-mount, RWD, VTEC Mini |
Didn't know mid engined cars like that had any classes to run in.. Very interesting. Hope he doesn't want to beat Carrera cup cars |
Author: | bootheman [ Tue Jul 08, 2014 8:19 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Leonidas - Mid-mount, RWD, VTEC Mini |
Won't be far off 0-100 |
Author: | meeni [ Tue Jul 08, 2014 8:22 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Leonidas - Mid-mount, RWD, VTEC Mini |
Probably not but 0-100 isn't everything |
Author: | Slugman [ Wed Jul 09, 2014 7:54 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Leonidas - Mid-mount, RWD, VTEC Mini |
Yes, so he will have to rely on having a high cornering speed as well. Now what is it that minis are renouned for? He'll have the front/back weight bias sorted too, with a mid-engined car. |
Author: | Archangel007 [ Wed Jul 09, 2014 8:42 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Leonidas - Mid-mount, RWD, VTEC Mini |
Slugman wrote: Yes, so he will have to rely on having a high cornering speed as well. Now what is it that minis are renouned for? He'll have the front/back weight bias sorted too, with a mid-engined car. Hey Sluggo, how have you been mate?? Wish we had the NT weather down here at the moment, its cold!! Hi Meeni, I have calculated the cornering speed to be around 0.95-0.98G on most corners, maybe a bit more depending on the rubber condition (road legal rubber in new condition), the track condition (camber, off-camber, super-elevation or not and type of tarmac etc) and also depending on the size of the cohones on the driver.... I think once it gets sorted (spring rates, valving, sway bars etc) we could be looking at potential lateral G's of 1.2-1.3G, maybe even a bit higher if we use super-sticky slicks! Weight bias is 48F:52R which is perfect for this car and allows the rear brakes to work better. Wont know for sure until I get it finished and on the scales to verify. Acceleration should be akin with the Porsche cars depending, once again, on rubber. Leonidas is lighter, which helps, but this also affects traction (no compaction, no traction) which needs weight. After 100km/h though, all bets are off. Braking G's are calculated to be in the order of 2.0-2.1G or very close to it, once again, dependent on rubber! Leo is running HUGE Brembo's off a Mitsubishi Lancer Evo X but this may be a problem in getting brakes up to temp with such a light car (about 600kg's) so I need to do some work on pad selection there. Hope this helps. Cheers, Tricky |
Author: | Slugman [ Wed Jul 09, 2014 8:53 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Leonidas - Mid-mount, RWD, VTEC Mini |
**** me! It's gonna be completely insane to drive at speed. With mine - 175/45 R13's with coil-overs & a rear swaybar - I find I have good traction, but it lets go fairly suddenly. The driver will have a lot of...... excitement..... finding the limits with that thing! Hope the pedals are far apart. It'll be hard to drive with cojones that big. Oh, & the weather, well what can I say. No clouds for the next three months, & 30 degrees at 25% humidity. It's a hard life. On the other hand, we are the skin-cancer capital of Aus. |
Author: | Archangel007 [ Wed Jul 09, 2014 6:09 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Leonidas - Mid-mount, RWD, VTEC Mini |
Yes mate its gonna be epic for sure. I am hoping with the revised weight bias rearwards, and the (very) tunable suspension its gonna give great feedback and be very communicative when it lets go - plenty of warning that the envelope is about to be exceeded. I agree, to find the limits with Leonidas you would need plums the size of cantelopes!! Dont ask me to do it - I would have to ask the wife for my back as she wears them for earings dont you know. I have extended the wheelbase by 20mm to help with the twitchiness, and that combined with the architecture, should provide plenty of stability, feel and feedback for a car of this dimension and weight. Send it down, was 3 deg. C here last night!! Cheers, Tricky |
Author: | BKozan [ Sun Jul 13, 2014 2:58 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Leonidas - Mid-mount, RWD, VTEC Mini |
I wish they had shows this good on tv... Beautiful work Tricky. |
Author: | 1018cc [ Sun Jul 13, 2014 3:15 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Leonidas - Mid-mount, RWD, VTEC Mini |
MOAR! Please |
Author: | clovus [ Sun Jul 13, 2014 4:34 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Leonidas - Mid-mount, RWD, VTEC Mini |
I really rate the attention to detail. Some very tricky engineering going on! |
Author: | hallsey [ Sun Jul 13, 2014 6:44 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Leonidas - Mid-mount, RWD, VTEC Mini |
Good work Tricksta coming along very nicely This is a massive undertaking bro but is looking so cool Cheers Hallsey |
Author: | Archangel007 [ Mon Jul 14, 2014 3:21 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Leonidas - Mid-mount, RWD, VTEC Mini |
Thanks guys for your very kind, and inspiring, words!! More soon. Cheers, Tricky |
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