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i'm really bad at managing my cash and i just got a full time job, so it's going to be full steam ahead on the mini in the upcoming months

is it even possible to get a mini engineered with a midmounted motor?
there's 3 really obvious parts to my plan which will need engineering:
honda brakes in the front
deseaming (they're ****ing rusty, unlike the rest of the car, oddly enough)
and midmounting a engine that's double the original 1098 (or bigger)

has anyone got any thoughtful input or experience with any of those?
i'm obviously the most concerned about midmounting the motor.
i don't know of anyone having done it before, nor do i know of anyone in australia with a z-cars kit going ahead...
FWD is, well, bland.
if it ends up being too hard i'll probably flog off the mini and buy a riceburner, and i'd much rather have a stupid-fast clubman, frankly.

cheers!

Author:	sebatron [ Thu Sep 15, 2005 9:55 pm ]
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i'm really bad at managing my cash and i just got a full time job, so it's going to be full steam ahead on the mini in the upcoming months is it even possible to get a mini engineered with a midmounted motor? there's 3 really obvious parts to my plan which will need engineering: honda brakes in the front deseaming (they're ****ing rusty, unlike the rest of the car, oddly enough) and midmounting a engine that's double the original 1098 (or bigger) has anyone got any thoughtful input or experience with any of those? i'm obviously the most concerned about midmounting the motor. i don't know of anyone having done it before, nor do i know of anyone in australia with a z-cars kit going ahead... FWD is, well, bland. if it ends up being too hard i'll probably flog off the mini and buy a riceburner, and i'd much rather have a stupid-fast clubman, frankly. cheers!

Author:	JC [ Thu Sep 15, 2005 10:31 pm ]
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sebatron wrote: i'm really bad at managing my cash and i just got a full time job, so it's going to be full steam ahead on the mini in the upcoming months is it even possible to get a mini engineered with a midmounted motor? there's 3 really obvious parts to my plan which will need engineering: honda brakes in the front deseaming (they're ****ing rusty, unlike the rest of the car, oddly enough) and midmounting a engine that's double the original 1098 (or bigger) has anyone got any thoughtful input or experience with any of those? i'm obviously the most concerned about midmounting the motor. i don't know of anyone having done it before, nor do i know of anyone in australia with a z-cars kit going ahead... FWD is, well, bland. if it ends up being too hard i'll probably flog off the mini and buy a riceburner, and i'd much rather have a stupid-fast clubman, frankly. cheers! I honestly don't think you will be able to register it as the same car. Meaning I think it will need to be an ICV. Which would mean it would need to comply with current ADR's. But fark me, when I was thinking about it I went to a JAP wrecker and found a new MR2 turbo. THAT, would be awesome.

Author:	sebatron [ Fri Sep 16, 2005 7:40 am ]
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seems to me as though the mini is a very, very long way off ADRs. yeah. i had that motor (3sgte) or a prelude H22A in mind... unless i could score a K24A (accord euro) motor cheap... guess i'll have to go talk to an engineer. could just make it a track car i spose.

Author:	JC [ Fri Sep 16, 2005 7:54 am ]
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Reason why I was considering the Yota Mota was that it is already a rear mounted motor. All you gear linkages and clutch stuff would be sorted. You would only have to slightly modify it to fit a mini. I have some pics of a mini with a rear mounted vtec if you woulld like to see them. It's a mini you can order out of the states. $20k US for the base model I believe.

Author:	Baracade [ Fri Sep 16, 2005 9:59 am ]
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Well in the words of the Conversion place's & Engineers.. ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE... its just how big your pocket is!

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Author:	EST-071 [ Fri Sep 16, 2005 11:26 am ]
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I think there is a rear mount moke some where in QLD, was posted on here some time ago. Will try and find post for you. Pete Found it, here is a link to the article http://autospeed.drive.com.au/cms/article.html?&A=1022

Author:	Baracade [ Fri Sep 16, 2005 6:10 pm ]
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Very intresting read....

Author:	awdmoke [ Fri Sep 16, 2005 9:24 pm ]
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Yeah, I read that some time ago. Still think a front mount is more sensible, so long as you have AWD

Author:	Mini Mad [ Fri Sep 16, 2005 9:29 pm ]
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If you really want power to the rears, go awd as awdmoke said.. I think you have the wrong car though with a comment like 'FWD [is] Bland'

Author:	sebatron [ Sat Sep 17, 2005 1:20 am ]
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i highly doubt theres enough room in a clubman for a motor + awd gearbox... and there'd be floorpan alterations and a complete redoing of the rear subframe. and i'd probably lose the boot that way too. it might work for a moke but i don't know about awd with a mini. i think it would actually be easier to midmount a motor than it would be to do awd. and hey, maybe i do have the wrong car thinking fwd is bland... but i still rather like it. i can just see room for improvement. and i don't see anyone paying out z-cars conversions either.

Author:	sg [ Sat Sep 17, 2005 7:00 am ]
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The Z Cars Kit (Hyabusa, R1 etc) is for all purposes mid mounted........ sits directly behind the front seats.

Author:	sebatron [ Sat Sep 17, 2005 11:23 am ]
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that was my point

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